Otaillon
Sep 17, 12:21 PM
Tell me about it! I sacrificed 2 hrs of sleep last night for this game, haha.
And for me a 2h math class!:D
And for me a 2h math class!:D
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ciTiger
Apr 28, 10:05 AM
So even when Apple's expectation are cut in half they still manage to get ahead? hum....
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TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 25, 12:11 AM
I have seen some transgenders, and I have nothing to say to them.
That's pretty messed up. Just because you feel uncomfortable with someone who doesn't identify as their birth gender doesn't mean they're somehow not worth your conversation.
Is it because of your religion? Christian perhaps? I wonder if Jesus would have been so dismissive of trans people too.
That's pretty messed up. Just because you feel uncomfortable with someone who doesn't identify as their birth gender doesn't mean they're somehow not worth your conversation.
Is it because of your religion? Christian perhaps? I wonder if Jesus would have been so dismissive of trans people too.
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appleguy123
Apr 25, 08:27 PM
After this post, I can�t even think straight.
I agree. Gay lapdances are looking pretty aPpealing when the alternative is that overpriced.
I agree. Gay lapdances are looking pretty aPpealing when the alternative is that overpriced.
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thisday
Apr 18, 12:10 AM
What about the heat? MBP are too hot and not in a nice way.
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fisty
Nov 3, 10:16 PM
i just finished installing xp sp2 on vmware works fine....
just under device manager it tells me one unregonised hardware....the video card... any1 knows how to solve this?
or is it part of the game
just under device manager it tells me one unregonised hardware....the video card... any1 knows how to solve this?
or is it part of the game
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Bubba Satori
Mar 31, 12:58 PM
Um, whats up with the brown turd toolbar? :eek:
Well, it's a thin and sleek iTurd. Magic.
Well, it's a thin and sleek iTurd. Magic.
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trader889
Jan 26, 11:18 PM
You can't tell much about where a company is going by looking at P/E, as by definition, this is a backwards-looking statistic. All of the companies you mention are growing far more slowly than Apple, which is why their trailing P/E ratios are lower. This is sort of what you said, but it's worth clarifying that you can't necessarily compare P/E ratios between companies with vastly different growth rates.
True, that's why I like to look at the PEG Ratio (P/E to Growth). If we take the current price of 130 minus cash net of payables and receivables (approx $17 a share), you get 113 for the "enterprise" value of Apple. I'll give it a conservative $5/share earnings this year, for a P/E of 23. According to Yahoo, we have an estimate of 30% growth this year, so we are getting a PEG of less than 1 for this year. Less than 1 is cheap, HOWEVER, it doesn't mean it can't/won't get cheaper.
I'm long Apple, so I have a bias, but here are some things to think about:
1) Market is reacting to bad numbers for the ipod, supposedly bad numbers for the iphone, recession concerns etc.. Do you think Apple is not going to come out with anything new this year that can add to the bottom line?
2) Apple is opening up more new stores worldwide. I believe their average sales at the stores is about $4000/sq foot. Their first China store is opening up in Beijing this year (think Olympics). Also, despite some of the headlines about no China iphone deal, CEO of China Mobile (370 million subscribers) stated this past weekend in Davos, Switzerland "We've not started any formal negotiations with Apple. The door is open to all for discussions about fashionable phones". This pretty reiterates what Steve Jobs said. Also, let's not forget all the other countries that have no iphone deals.
3) $18 billion in cash. Let's say that this earns 2%. Comes out to about 30,000,000 a month or .03 per share in earnings just on interest. On the conference call, I think one of the analysts said that Apple is averaging about $1 billion a quarter in cash, although last quarter was killer when they added $3 billion.
4) 45% of Apple's revenues come from overseas. This will only get larger as they open more stores overseas. Unless we get a worldwide recession, overseas sales should help cushion any US slowdown. Also, all the US analysts keep coming up with their updates based upon their "channel" checks, does this include overseas channel checks? I doubt it. So be wary of what they say.
5) Personally, I think the Macbook Air was developed with Japan in mind. In previous conference calls, CFO said Japan was one of the weaker markets. As some of you may know, Japan loves small, ultraportable computers.
Feel to comment/criticize, but as one poster said, if you think Apple is finished as a company, sell. If you think the future still looks good, don't look at the price of Apple for 3 months or as Warren Buffet says, 10 years..lol.
True, that's why I like to look at the PEG Ratio (P/E to Growth). If we take the current price of 130 minus cash net of payables and receivables (approx $17 a share), you get 113 for the "enterprise" value of Apple. I'll give it a conservative $5/share earnings this year, for a P/E of 23. According to Yahoo, we have an estimate of 30% growth this year, so we are getting a PEG of less than 1 for this year. Less than 1 is cheap, HOWEVER, it doesn't mean it can't/won't get cheaper.
I'm long Apple, so I have a bias, but here are some things to think about:
1) Market is reacting to bad numbers for the ipod, supposedly bad numbers for the iphone, recession concerns etc.. Do you think Apple is not going to come out with anything new this year that can add to the bottom line?
2) Apple is opening up more new stores worldwide. I believe their average sales at the stores is about $4000/sq foot. Their first China store is opening up in Beijing this year (think Olympics). Also, despite some of the headlines about no China iphone deal, CEO of China Mobile (370 million subscribers) stated this past weekend in Davos, Switzerland "We've not started any formal negotiations with Apple. The door is open to all for discussions about fashionable phones". This pretty reiterates what Steve Jobs said. Also, let's not forget all the other countries that have no iphone deals.
3) $18 billion in cash. Let's say that this earns 2%. Comes out to about 30,000,000 a month or .03 per share in earnings just on interest. On the conference call, I think one of the analysts said that Apple is averaging about $1 billion a quarter in cash, although last quarter was killer when they added $3 billion.
4) 45% of Apple's revenues come from overseas. This will only get larger as they open more stores overseas. Unless we get a worldwide recession, overseas sales should help cushion any US slowdown. Also, all the US analysts keep coming up with their updates based upon their "channel" checks, does this include overseas channel checks? I doubt it. So be wary of what they say.
5) Personally, I think the Macbook Air was developed with Japan in mind. In previous conference calls, CFO said Japan was one of the weaker markets. As some of you may know, Japan loves small, ultraportable computers.
Feel to comment/criticize, but as one poster said, if you think Apple is finished as a company, sell. If you think the future still looks good, don't look at the price of Apple for 3 months or as Warren Buffet says, 10 years..lol.
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techpr
Apr 14, 12:31 PM
wait i'm confused is this for iphone or iPad or both? :confused:
Both.
iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch.
Both.
iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch.
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sammich
Oct 28, 01:06 AM
Well, I'll hop on the bandwagon. My measly old MBP should be able to cope with it. I'll get my PS3 onto the game as well, just to see how much I can get out of it.
(far out you guys are well equipped)
(far out you guys are well equipped)
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maclaptop
May 4, 09:17 AM
As many have accurately stated, Apple does things on their terms. They know people will wait. Its no big deal.
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hobbyrennfahrer
Jan 31, 10:59 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/img_1259vmsw.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/img_1263bm6v.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/img_1267zmx8.jpg
:rolleyes:
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http://www.abload.de/img/img_1267zmx8.jpg
:rolleyes:
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Surely
Feb 28, 01:41 PM
I disagree. He's seriously ill. Just look at the guy. He's one year older than I am and he looks ten years older.
I'm not saying that I don't think he's abusing some serious drugs, but I think he has more control over what he's doing/saying than we think.
I'm not saying that I don't think he's abusing some serious drugs, but I think he has more control over what he's doing/saying than we think.
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rydewnd2
May 4, 09:09 AM
I'll be quite disappointed and most likely skip my first generation of iPhone if they don't integrate 4g antennas. If they're going to delay release (from their normal schedule) we would at least hope to see competitive hardware features with the android phones that come out on a seemingly daily basis.
Also, would they be pushing it back for a possible 4G capable iPhone?
And I would bet anything they will have white and black from day 1.
Also, would they be pushing it back for a possible 4G capable iPhone?
And I would bet anything they will have white and black from day 1.
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mattmarks
Mar 31, 11:51 AM
I would much rather see something that better resembles the mobile me calendar, much cleaner.
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jlyanks85
Dec 4, 11:18 PM
pppfffttt... man up and get some real firepower:D I bought myself an ORIGINAL Desert Eagle 50 cal last year ...best money I ever spent.
http://pistolspace.com/images/deserteagle2.jpg
Yes it costs a fortune to shoot and my wrist can only handle about 6 rounds and I am done for the day. However it only takes 1 from this thing to stop anything shy of a pissed off bull elephant:D
Where do you live? I always thought it was illegal to own a small firearm like that I know that's what I've been told anyway. Unless you absolutely were require to have one, like a cop/fbi.
Now I don't care, just curious how so many people on this board own guns like this and automatic weapons.
http://pistolspace.com/images/deserteagle2.jpg
Yes it costs a fortune to shoot and my wrist can only handle about 6 rounds and I am done for the day. However it only takes 1 from this thing to stop anything shy of a pissed off bull elephant:D
Where do you live? I always thought it was illegal to own a small firearm like that I know that's what I've been told anyway. Unless you absolutely were require to have one, like a cop/fbi.
Now I don't care, just curious how so many people on this board own guns like this and automatic weapons.
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rovex
Apr 27, 12:46 PM
Nice metric you have there, $some people on the internet have said it, thus it must be true.
:rolleyes:
Obviously taking everything out of context, when we are dealing with the bleeding obvious there is no reason not to suggest it. I watched the video before reading the comments, so your point has no substance.
:rolleyes:
Obviously taking everything out of context, when we are dealing with the bleeding obvious there is no reason not to suggest it. I watched the video before reading the comments, so your point has no substance.
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Kwill
Apr 24, 05:19 PM
I can't read the words on the display. Is seems to say something about confidential and proprietary. I guess this is where the internal location tracking comes in handy.
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-aggie-
Apr 19, 12:14 PM
It's better to wait longer before starting if you get more players (should at least have 15).
"Don't Panic" said he will play but I didn't see his name on the list.
I'll play and bring some popcorn in anticipation of another "Don't Panic" / Aggie argument :).
Note: I have a bunch of work coming up so I may not be as active (posting) as usual :(.
My point wasn�t we need to start; it was that we aren�t getting players. I figured I�d bump it to maybe get the thread some notice.
When do DP and I argue?:confused:
"Don't Panic" said he will play but I didn't see his name on the list.
I'll play and bring some popcorn in anticipation of another "Don't Panic" / Aggie argument :).
Note: I have a bunch of work coming up so I may not be as active (posting) as usual :(.
My point wasn�t we need to start; it was that we aren�t getting players. I figured I�d bump it to maybe get the thread some notice.
When do DP and I argue?:confused:
archurban
Jul 11, 03:21 PM
it will be a good competition after all. it's MS. not just small mp3 player makers. but I doubt that new product will take a piece of ipod so called 'ipod killer'? it's not how ipod killer looks but how it can integerate both hardware and software like itunes so well. whatever MS do, they have gizliions of money to put anyway.
on the other hand, Apple already knows MS plan. Apple will release new 6G ipod before MS will do or at the same time. plus movie download service could be launched becasue MS makes Apple to hurry for going more further way. it will be interesting to watch the competition. :)
on the other hand, Apple already knows MS plan. Apple will release new 6G ipod before MS will do or at the same time. plus movie download service could be launched becasue MS makes Apple to hurry for going more further way. it will be interesting to watch the competition. :)
lewis82
Sep 13, 09:13 PM
Couldn't zoom in on the tag and don't recognize it. So back to square one...
www.threadless.com
;)
www.threadless.com
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ghall
Apr 29, 03:06 PM
considering that amazon sells mp3 format and apple sells their non-universal format, it still doesn't matter to me. Until apple gets real and starts selling MP3s I will continue to buy from amazon. But I guess they don't care.
Basically any modern media device can play MP4 which is what Apple uses on it's store. For example I can put music purchased from iTunes on my Android phone with no coversion at all.
Basically any modern media device can play MP4 which is what Apple uses on it's store. For example I can put music purchased from iTunes on my Android phone with no coversion at all.
localoid
Apr 14, 02:46 AM
"iX" = "Ix", which is the nickname for the character Ford Prefect in the book "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".
Obviously, the new Apple device is either a digital watch or a towel.
Obviously, the new Apple device is either a digital watch or a towel.
balamw
Oct 23, 03:30 PM
why the hell would I but Vista anyway?
You know things are bad when even the fanboys are making similar arguments...
Sticking with Windows XP in a Windows Vista World (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_xp_apps.asp)
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You know things are bad when even the fanboys are making similar arguments...
Sticking with Windows XP in a Windows Vista World (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_xp_apps.asp)
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